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[CARTL]

CARTEL Українських незалежних однодумців

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“ВСЕ БУДЕ УКРАЇНА”

Commander: k0MANDA_13278462422 membersFounded 20 Sept 2022
Average WN8: Very goodInvite onlyFormerly [UA_MT] УКРАЇНА МАЄ ТАЛАНТ-ПЕРЕМАГАТИ · until 3 May 2024

Roster as of 6 Nov 2026 · 16 hours ago

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Проходить набір гравців в клан.
📖 Вимоги для вступу:
☎️ Обов’язкова авторизація в Дискорді.
✅ Техніка АБС формату: T95/FV4201 Chieftain; об.907; об.279 (р); CS63; об.140; EBR 105,277,260 і т.д.
✅ WN8: 2100+ за останні 1000 боїв
✅ Урон на 10 лвл: 2500+ в рандомі, в АБС 1700+
✅ Відсоток перемог: 52+
✅ Особистий рейтинг 7000+
✅ Онлайн мінімум 4/7
⏰ Прайм-тайм з 21:00-00:00 по Києву
🎧 Наявність навушників та мікрофону
📺 Бажання грати в кланових режимах, вчитися та розвиватися!


⛽️ Що ми можемо запропонувати:
✔️ Укреп, Глобальна карта, Наступи, Взвод.
✔️ Фінка з 19:00 по 00:00 (Київ)
💰 Золото та бони з Глобальної карти активним гравцям!
☎️ Спілкування на різні теми!
🇺🇦 Слава Україні! Героям Слава! 🇺🇦

Clan id
500225848
Followed here since
14 Oct 2026

History

150 most recent events

23 Sept 2026

  • Accepted Members

    23 Sept 2026, 19:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Alilyu_ has been accepted to the clan.

28 Jun 2026

  • Members Left

    28 Jun 2026, 07:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player UdAvDnEpRoVsKiY left the clan.

14 Jun 2026

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    14 Jun 2026, 19:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player xHennessee left the clan.

5 Jun 2026

  • Accepted Members

    5 Jun 2026, 13:58 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player xHennessee has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

2 Jun 2026

  • Accepted Members

    2 Jun 2026, 18:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player sooogggoood3_1 has been accepted to the clan.

31 May 2026

  • Members Left

    31 May 2026, 20:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ___beko____ left the clan.

28 May 2026

  • Accepted Members

    28 May 2026, 21:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ___beko____ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Apr 2026

  • Accepted Members

    30 Apr 2026, 18:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ARTY1LOVE has been accepted to the clan.

29 Apr 2026

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    29 Apr 2026, 19:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Barik_9 left the clan.

18 Apr 2026

  • Accepted Members

    18 Apr 2026, 14:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Ar1etc has been accepted to the clan.

29 Mar 2026

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    29 Mar 2026, 08:26 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Orkonapihath left the clan.

23 Mar 2026

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    23 Mar 2026, 21:26 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Alilyu_ left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    23 Mar 2026, 21:25 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player k0MANDA_132784624 has been accepted to the clan.

21 Feb 2026

  • Members Left

    21 Feb 2026, 23:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pumpi_NP left the clan.

1 Feb 2026

  • Accepted Members

    1 Feb 2026, 13:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player neshor has been accepted to the clan.

20 Jan 2026

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    20 Jan 2026, 16:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Shvepssik_1 left the clan.

14 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    14 Jan 2026, 16:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pumpi_NP has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

12 Jan 2026

  • Members Left

    12 Jan 2026, 22:34 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOMHATHbIU_3JIODEU__2019 left the clan.

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    12 Jan 2026, 10:27 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Tanjero777 left the clan.

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    12 Jan 2026, 08:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player nwhiskas left the clan.

11 Jan 2026

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    11 Jan 2026, 21:47 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player bandan13 left the clan.

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    11 Jan 2026, 21:43 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player porovoz619mb left the clan.

10 Jan 2026

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    10 Jan 2026, 19:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _0___0__ left the clan.

9 Jan 2026

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    9 Jan 2026, 22:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player VZhenek left the clan.

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    9 Jan 2026, 21:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player lvl_e_p_3_o_c_T_b left the clan.

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    9 Jan 2026, 21:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Vertyxan_227____ left the clan.

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    9 Jan 2026, 15:30 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Grumpy_pipe left the clan.

4 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jan 2026, 13:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Orkonapihath has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jan 2026, 10:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player lvl_e_p_3_o_c_T_b has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

29 Dec 2025

  • Members Left

    29 Dec 2025, 18:59 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player BALSHOU_ left the clan.

28 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    28 Dec 2025, 13:31 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Shvepssik_1 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

22 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    22 Dec 2025, 14:39 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOMHATHbIU_3JIODEU__2019 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    22 Dec 2025, 13:13 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player BALSHOU_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

15 Dec 2025

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    15 Dec 2025, 17:27 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player JI_o_g_bI_p_b left the clan.

2 Dec 2025

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    2 Dec 2025, 11:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _METALIST_UA left the clan.

30 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    30 Nov 2025, 17:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player JI_o_g_bI_p_b has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    30 Nov 2025, 17:13 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _METALIST_UA has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

28 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    28 Nov 2025, 22:00 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOVOVA_2014 left the clan.

25 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    25 Nov 2025, 17:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Tanjero777 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

24 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    24 Nov 2025, 18:34 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player B_O_O_M_E_ left the clan.

16 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    16 Nov 2025, 19:44 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player qwer998 has been accepted to the clan.

14 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    14 Nov 2025, 23:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Grumpy_pipe has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    14 Nov 2025, 21:47 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player 19007_3262839 left the clan.

11 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    11 Nov 2025, 17:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Players (2) have been accepted to the clan.

27 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    27 Oct 2025, 21:47 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player X50 left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    27 Oct 2025, 18:06 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player X50 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

9 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    9 Oct 2025, 19:29 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOT__KOKOC1 left the clan.

8 Oct 2025

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    8 Oct 2025, 22:06 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _kataros_ left the clan.

7 Oct 2025

  • Accepted Members

    7 Oct 2025, 20:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOT__KOKOC1 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

2 Oct 2025

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    2 Oct 2025, 10:15 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _MrShow_ left the clan.

25 Sept 2025

20 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    20 Sept 2025, 12:04 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player bandan13 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

19 Sept 2025

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    19 Sept 2025, 19:05 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player nikoaichuk left the clan.

11 Sept 2025

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    11 Sept 2025, 16:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pumpi_NP left the clan.

8 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    8 Sept 2025, 16:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player nikoaichuk has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Aug 2025

  • Members Left

    30 Aug 2025, 11:03 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player OVERLORD_RANDOMA left the clan.

18 Aug 2025

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    18 Aug 2025, 06:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player AWP_camper left the clan.

4 Aug 2025

  • Accepted Members

    4 Aug 2025, 19:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player TzerbeR_188342 has been accepted to the clan.

7 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    7 Jul 2025, 19:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player AWP_camper has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 Jul 2025

5 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    5 Jul 2025, 22:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ReeboK_1992_27084224 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

4 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jul 2025, 19:02 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _kataros_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jul 2025, 12:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player porovoz619mb has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

25 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    25 May 2025, 17:27 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Slivka1 has been accepted to the clan.

20 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    20 May 2025, 10:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player OVERLORD_RANDOMA has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    6 May 2025, 11:06 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _MrShow_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

4 May 2025

  • Members Left

    4 May 2025, 12:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player __Kam1kadze left the clan.

27 Apr 2025

  • Accepted Members

    27 Apr 2025, 11:20 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Ostap2308_2013 has been accepted to the clan.

20 Mar 2025

  • Members Left

    20 Mar 2025, 20:27 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player BUJIiK left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    20 Mar 2025, 16:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player BUJIiK has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    20 Mar 2025, 08:13 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Veridias left the clan.

15 Mar 2025

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    15 Mar 2025, 21:21 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player artidemon left the clan.

13 Mar 2025

  • Accepted Members

    13 Mar 2025, 19:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player minizloba57 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

12 Mar 2025

  • Members Left

    12 Mar 2025, 10:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player UFO_____ left the clan.

8 Mar 2025

  • Accepted Members

    8 Mar 2025, 20:29 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player B_O_O_M_E_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

16 Feb 2025

  • Members Left

    16 Feb 2025, 12:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player B_O_O_M_E_ left the clan.

12 Feb 2025

  • Members Left

    12 Feb 2025, 10:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pro_100_NiKoLaY left the clan.

11 Feb 2025

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    11 Feb 2025, 17:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Tolia910 left the clan.

  • Members Left

    11 Feb 2025, 15:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _ENIGMAN_ left the clan.

8 Feb 2025

  • Accepted Members

    8 Feb 2025, 18:41 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pro_100_NiKoLaY has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

5 Feb 2025

  • Members Left

    5 Feb 2025, 19:51 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player CYETA__UA left the clan.

2 Feb 2025

  • Accepted Members

    2 Feb 2025, 09:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Tolia910 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

10 Jan 2025

  • Accepted Members

    10 Jan 2025, 17:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Brobdingneg has been accepted to the clan.

8 Jan 2025

  • Accepted Members

    8 Jan 2025, 15:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player mihkal_13869458 has been accepted to the clan.

27 Dec 2024

  • Members Left

    27 Dec 2024, 19:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Vetalkya left the clan.

24 Dec 2024

  • Accepted Members

    24 Dec 2024, 18:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Vetalkya has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

18 Dec 2024

  • Accepted Members

    18 Dec 2024, 15:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _0___0__ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Nov 2024

  • Members Left

    30 Nov 2024, 18:13 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _MoonL1ghtt_ left the clan.

29 Nov 2024

  • Members Left

    29 Nov 2024, 15:03 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player DarthDoomUA left the clan.

18 Nov 2024

17 Nov 2024

  • Accepted Members

    17 Nov 2024, 19:20 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RenamedUser_594712701 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

31 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    31 Oct 2024, 19:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Veridias has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

28 Oct 2024

  • Members Left

    28 Oct 2024, 17:51 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yariknadtochei left the clan.

27 Oct 2024

  • Members Left

    27 Oct 2024, 15:12 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Slowpoke_iz_opg left the clan.

24 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    24 Oct 2024, 21:50 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Slowpoke_iz_opg has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

22 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    22 Oct 2024, 16:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yariknadtochei has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

21 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    21 Oct 2024, 16:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player VZhenek has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

19 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    19 Oct 2024, 19:02 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _ENIGMAN_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

8 Oct 2024

  • Members Left

    8 Oct 2024, 19:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player TTo3uTuB4uk_666 left the clan.

  • Members Left

    8 Oct 2024, 19:32 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Venia4 left the clan.

7 Oct 2024

  • Accepted Members

    7 Oct 2024, 20:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _MoonL1ghtt_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

28 Sept 2024

  • Accepted Members

    28 Sept 2024, 05:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Borttehnik has been accepted to the clan.

25 Sept 2024

  • Accepted Members

    25 Sept 2024, 19:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player CYETA__UA has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

21 Sept 2024

  • Accepted Members

    21 Sept 2024, 11:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Venia4 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

3 Sept 2024

  • Members Left

    3 Sept 2024, 18:59 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MORJAK__PAPAY left the clan.

1 Sept 2024

  • Accepted Members

    1 Sept 2024, 18:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MORJAK__PAPAY has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Aug 2024

  • Accepted Members

    30 Aug 2024, 17:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player artidemon has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

18 Aug 2024

  • Accepted Members

    18 Aug 2024, 19:50 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player UFO_____ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

17 Aug 2024

  • Members Left

    17 Aug 2024, 19:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player UFO_____ left the clan.

24 Jul 2024

  • Accepted Members

    24 Jul 2024, 19:32 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player The_DIMAN has been accepted to the clan.

13 Jul 2024

  • Members Left

    13 Jul 2024, 13:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Plemyash_WOT left the clan.

8 Jul 2024

  • Accepted Members

    8 Jul 2024, 15:12 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Plemyash_WOT has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 Jul 2024

  • Members Left

    6 Jul 2024, 19:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player GLLuk left the clan.

  • Members Left

    6 Jul 2024, 19:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player pro100kpoS left the clan.

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    6 Jul 2024, 19:15 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KpanJleHblu left the clan.

30 Jun 2024

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    30 Jun 2024, 20:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player I_m1n1ster_I left the clan.

29 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    29 Jun 2024, 21:33 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player I_m1n1ster_I has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

25 Jun 2024

  • Members Left

    25 Jun 2024, 08:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Dimka_BANDIT_18 left the clan.

24 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    24 Jun 2024, 14:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Gross_Pappi has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    24 Jun 2024, 05:09 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player UFO_____ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

20 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    20 Jun 2024, 18:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player __Kam1kadze has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

17 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    17 Jun 2024, 12:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player miler33UA has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

15 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    15 Jun 2024, 20:45 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KpanJleHblu has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    15 Jun 2024, 10:44 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player IaIok left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    15 Jun 2024, 10:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player IaIok has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

14 Jun 2024

  • Members Left

    14 Jun 2024, 13:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Mazaxusta left the clan.

10 Jun 2024

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    10 Jun 2024, 20:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ALEX_UKRAINIAN_ left the clan.

9 Jun 2024

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    9 Jun 2024, 17:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player metafizik_21 left the clan.

3 Jun 2024

  • Accepted Members

    3 Jun 2024, 18:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Dimka_BANDIT_18 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 May 2024

  • Members Left

    30 May 2024, 21:00 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NAPR0CENTE left the clan.

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    30 May 2024, 19:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _iVirtuesUA_EXwr left the clan.

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    30 May 2024, 16:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player FoXx_UA left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    30 May 2024, 08:04 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NAPR0CENTE has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

24 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    24 May 2024, 10:12 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _iVirtuesUA_EXwr has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

23 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    23 May 2024, 22:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player DarthDoomUA has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

21 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    21 May 2024, 11:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Vertyxan_227____ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

19 May 2024

  • Members Left

    19 May 2024, 20:30 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Vertyxan_227____ left the clan.

18 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    18 May 2024, 16:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Mazaxusta has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

17 May 2024

  • Members Left

    17 May 2024, 10:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player FayNtaM left the clan.

15 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    15 May 2024, 17:34 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player FayNtaM has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

12 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    12 May 2024, 17:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player B_O_O_M_E_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 May 2024

  • Accepted Members

    6 May 2024, 08:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ALEX_UKRAINIAN_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

4 May 2024

  • Members Left

    4 May 2024, 22:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ALEX_UKRAINIAN_ left the clan.

  • Members Left

    4 May 2024, 20:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player B_O_O_M_E_ left the clan.

20 Mar 2024

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    20 Mar 2024, 04:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Green_P10 left the clan.

12 Mar 2024

  • Accepted Members

    12 Mar 2024, 08:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player 4len_PAKETA has been accepted to the clan.

9 Mar 2024

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    9 Mar 2024, 19:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player master_energy_ left the clan.

2 Mar 2024

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    2 Mar 2024, 19:00 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Mr_Carebar left the clan.

A join is exact: Wargaming lists it with the roster. A departure or a change of position is noticed when the roster is next refreshed, so it is shown with the window it happened in — this clan has been followed since 14 Oct 2026. Changes of position are known only from when this site began recording them; earlier ones are not shown. Where a player’s own membership history has been fetched, its exact dates are shown instead, including earlier ones.