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“"Буде нам з тобою що згадати"”

Commander: __CMEPTb_BoporaM__80 membersFounded 20 Sept 2022
Average WN8: GoodInvite onlyFormerly [AAIMU] 💪Українці💪СУВОРО ЧОРНІ · until 25 Jan 2026

Roster as of 15 Nov 2026 · 17 hours ago

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❗❗УВАГА ❗❗ДЛЯ ОХОЧИХ ВСТУПИТИ В КЛАН НАЯВНІСТЬ ☎️ Discord


✅Допоможемо покращити твої показники як в рандомі, так і АБС форматі!
☎️ Зв`язок Discord
✅ Онлайн мінімум 5/7
✅ Зайшов в гру - зайшов в Discord (прайм-тайм)
✅ В клані вітаються особи з почуттям гумору та розумінням командної гри.
⏰ Прайм-тайм з 20:00-23:00 по Києву!
🎧 Наявність навушників та мікрофону!🎤
📺 Бажання грати в кланові режими, вчитися та розвиватися!


⛽️ Що ми можемо запропонувати:
✔️ Вилазки, Наступи, Глобальну карту, Взводи!
✔️ Фінка: будні з 16:00- 00:00 (Київ).
✔️ Інші плюшки по бажанню гравців!
✔️ Дружній колектив і адекватне керівництво!


ГОЛОВНЕ не ігнорити коли запрошують в кланові бої та перебувати в Discord в прайм тайм з 20-00

Clan id
500229401
Followed here since
14 Oct 2026

History

150 most recent events

12 Nov 2026

  • Members Left

    Noticed 12 Nov 2026, 00:05 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player pshenja left the clan.

    Left between 10 Nov 2026, 09:55 UTC and 12 Nov 2026, 00:05 UTC.

26 Oct 2026

  • Members Left

    Noticed 26 Oct 2026, 09:50 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player rokersw left the clan.

    Left between 25 Oct 2026, 09:50 UTC and 26 Oct 2026, 09:50 UTC.

1 Oct 2026

  • Accepted Members

    1 Oct 2026, 20:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NERO531 has been accepted to the clan.

8 Jun 2026

  • Members Left

    8 Jun 2026, 16:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Reisler_ left the clan.

6 Jun 2026

  • Accepted Members

    6 Jun 2026, 15:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Reisler_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

17 May 2026

  • Accepted Members

    17 May 2026, 17:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SNAIPER_370 has been accepted to the clan.

25 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    25 Mar 2026, 11:39 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KOLONAKI has been accepted to the clan.

24 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    24 Mar 2026, 21:21 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Banzau75 has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    24 Mar 2026, 19:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player volodimirfil has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    24 Mar 2026, 17:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Jimff has been accepted to the clan.

16 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    16 Mar 2026, 20:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player vetal9008 has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    16 Mar 2026, 20:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player klinerfox has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    16 Mar 2026, 16:21 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MS_DONI_2017_pobeditel has been accepted to the clan.

14 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    14 Mar 2026, 15:32 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Zhuravel99 has been accepted to the clan.

12 Mar 2026

  • Members Left

    12 Mar 2026, 12:03 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player seqwad left the clan.

8 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    8 Mar 2026, 07:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RedN1mba has been accepted to the clan.

2 Mar 2026

  • Accepted Members

    2 Mar 2026, 20:20 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player nikitonnnnn has been accepted to the clan.

23 Feb 2026

21 Feb 2026

  • Accepted Members

    21 Feb 2026, 22:12 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RenamedUser_595213727 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

18 Feb 2026

  • Accepted Members

    18 Feb 2026, 12:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player OwdiuS has been accepted to the clan.

17 Feb 2026

  • Members Left

    17 Feb 2026, 19:26 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player tretyak_2012 left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    17 Feb 2026, 19:15 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player 10151980 has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    17 Feb 2026, 15:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KomarEgor has been accepted to the clan.

14 Feb 2026

  • Accepted Members

    14 Feb 2026, 08:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RaZeR2101 has been accepted to the clan.

2 Feb 2026

  • Accepted Members

    2 Feb 2026, 19:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MIXA_25_ has been accepted to the clan.

30 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    30 Jan 2026, 06:45 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player seqwad has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

25 Jan 2026

  • Members Left

    25 Jan 2026, 19:33 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Bigbill91 left the clan.

15 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    15 Jan 2026, 09:08 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Bigbill91 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

11 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    11 Jan 2026, 23:20 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player KavaIery has been accepted to the clan.

9 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    9 Jan 2026, 14:10 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Storm1992524 has been accepted to the clan.

8 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    8 Jan 2026, 20:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MUSTANG_WRS1111 has been accepted to the clan.

4 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jan 2026, 18:45 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SavaronUA has been accepted to the clan.

2 Jan 2026

  • Accepted Members

    2 Jan 2026, 19:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RenamedUser_24829758 has been accepted to the clan.

25 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    25 Dec 2025, 08:06 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Winter_D has been accepted to the clan.

22 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    22 Dec 2025, 18:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ARXI13012003 has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    22 Dec 2025, 15:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _SGUSCHENKA_ has been accepted to the clan.

18 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    18 Dec 2025, 06:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player BoJlKoDaV_UA has been accepted to the clan.

17 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    17 Dec 2025, 19:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player discoverys has been accepted to the clan.

  • Members Left

    17 Dec 2025, 17:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player saulkrieg left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    17 Dec 2025, 16:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player saulkrieg has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

14 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    14 Dec 2025, 16:41 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Simplex_97 has been accepted to the clan.

13 Dec 2025

  • Members Left

    13 Dec 2025, 20:07 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RefuseResist left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    13 Dec 2025, 19:58 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player RefuseResist has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    13 Dec 2025, 18:53 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player oleg19692401 left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    13 Dec 2025, 15:58 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player oleg19692401 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

12 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    12 Dec 2025, 14:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Jason_Statham777 has been accepted to the clan.

3 Dec 2025

  • Accepted Members

    3 Dec 2025, 20:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MAQLARD has been accepted to the clan.

27 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    27 Nov 2025, 19:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _M00NSHINE_ left the clan.

23 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    23 Nov 2025, 20:29 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Andrey_KM left the clan.

19 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    19 Nov 2025, 17:27 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ORAKL____2016 has been accepted to the clan.

18 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    18 Nov 2025, 18:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _OMikron left the clan.

16 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    16 Nov 2025, 18:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player TerminatorT8000T left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    16 Nov 2025, 00:53 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Pturist has been accepted to the clan.

15 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    15 Nov 2025, 04:10 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NeUbIvAeMiE_2020k left the clan.

14 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    14 Nov 2025, 19:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Maximka213 left the clan.

  • Members Left

    14 Nov 2025, 18:53 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yar65 left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    14 Nov 2025, 18:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yar65 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

13 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    13 Nov 2025, 20:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _M00NSHINE_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

12 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    12 Nov 2025, 21:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Hitohami left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    12 Nov 2025, 19:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Maximka213 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    12 Nov 2025, 17:03 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NeUbIvAeMiE_2020k has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

11 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    11 Nov 2025, 19:34 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Andrey_KM has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    11 Nov 2025, 10:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NaVi_Vortex left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    11 Nov 2025, 07:33 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player NaVi_Vortex has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

10 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    10 Nov 2025, 18:31 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Fyordq left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    10 Nov 2025, 15:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Fyordq has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

9 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    9 Nov 2025, 21:28 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player I52500K has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    9 Nov 2025, 20:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _OMikron has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    9 Nov 2025, 17:22 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player 24617 has been accepted to the clan.

8 Nov 2025

  • Members Left

    8 Nov 2025, 18:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SICKINER left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    8 Nov 2025, 13:44 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SICKINER has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    8 Nov 2025, 08:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Hitohami has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 Nov 2025

  • Accepted Members

    6 Nov 2025, 13:33 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player tretyak_2012 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Oct 2025

  • Accepted Members

    30 Oct 2025, 23:00 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player PS75Morok has been accepted to the clan.

25 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    25 Oct 2025, 19:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player sadam12_1404306 left the clan.

23 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    23 Oct 2025, 19:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Graf_1918 left the clan.

22 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    22 Oct 2025, 20:41 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Marall left the clan.

19 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    19 Oct 2025, 19:50 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Lavron4eg left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    19 Oct 2025, 18:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Lavron4eg has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

15 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    15 Oct 2025, 19:13 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Keruvim left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    15 Oct 2025, 17:12 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Keruvim has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

14 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    14 Oct 2025, 18:39 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Avryx left the clan.

12 Oct 2025

  • Accepted Members

    12 Oct 2025, 10:53 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player n0NThEnSe has been accepted to the clan.

10 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    10 Oct 2025, 18:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Sparta_2_ZSU left the clan.

8 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    8 Oct 2025, 19:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player JellyRabbit left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    8 Oct 2025, 18:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player JellyRabbit has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

7 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    7 Oct 2025, 16:43 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player sergeykgb79 left the clan.

6 Oct 2025

  • Members Left

    6 Oct 2025, 17:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ukrainec_600 left the clan.

5 Oct 2025

  • Accepted Members

    5 Oct 2025, 20:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ukrainec_600 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    5 Oct 2025, 10:53 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player OXOTHIK_1945 has been accepted to the clan.

27 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    27 Sept 2025, 16:40 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Zloy_Ramanush has been accepted to the clan.

  • Members Left

    27 Sept 2025, 15:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player rom4ikyss left the clan.

24 Sept 2025

  • Members Left

    24 Sept 2025, 15:34 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player seqwad left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    24 Sept 2025, 12:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player seqwad has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

23 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    23 Sept 2025, 16:45 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player TerminatorT8000T has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    23 Sept 2025, 11:04 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yurets07 has been accepted to the clan.

21 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    21 Sept 2025, 16:26 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player rom4ikyss has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Members Left

    21 Sept 2025, 13:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player renamed_656849632 left the clan.

20 Sept 2025

  • Members Left

    20 Sept 2025, 18:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SALOED_ left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    20 Sept 2025, 08:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Sparta_2_ZSU has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

19 Sept 2025

  • Members Left

    19 Sept 2025, 18:57 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player I_KaPaTeJlb_l left the clan.

18 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    18 Sept 2025, 18:36 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player renamed_656849632 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

15 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    15 Sept 2025, 17:50 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Addonis_ has been accepted to the clan.

13 Sept 2025

  • Members Left

    13 Sept 2025, 17:25 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Skorpion_007_ left the clan.

12 Sept 2025

  • Members Left

    12 Sept 2025, 20:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ChevalierYouth left the clan.

4 Sept 2025

  • Accepted Members

    4 Sept 2025, 14:02 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _Skorpion_007_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

29 Aug 2025

  • Accepted Members

    29 Aug 2025, 21:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _SEIGIRONIN_ has been accepted to the clan.

14 Aug 2025

  • Members Left

    14 Aug 2025, 18:54 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _______kot left the clan.

4 Aug 2025

  • Members Left

    4 Aug 2025, 14:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ___KO3AK__ left the clan.

1 Aug 2025

  • Accepted Members

    1 Aug 2025, 16:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ___KO3AK__ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

31 Jul 2025

29 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    29 Jul 2025, 17:39 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player MidNight_Romantik has been accepted to the clan.

28 Jul 2025

  • Members Left

    28 Jul 2025, 18:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _vovan_tank left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    28 Jul 2025, 15:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _vovan_tank has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    28 Jul 2025, 13:29 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Umbriacos has been accepted to the clan.

25 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    25 Jul 2025, 20:38 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Marall has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

21 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    21 Jul 2025, 19:30 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Raptor2911 has been accepted to the clan.

13 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    13 Jul 2025, 17:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player craazyhorsee has been accepted to the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    13 Jul 2025, 13:14 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Urrsa_warrior has been accepted to the clan.

12 Jul 2025

  • Members Left

    12 Jul 2025, 17:42 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Sketerok left the clan.

8 Jul 2025

  • Members Left

    8 Jul 2025, 18:23 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player __KAHOVKA__ left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    8 Jul 2025, 12:19 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player __KAHOVKA__ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    8 Jul 2025, 08:37 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player AreZZ_2053604 has been accepted to the clan.

4 Jul 2025

  • Members Left

    4 Jul 2025, 17:49 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yskoritel1 left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jul 2025, 15:17 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player yskoritel1 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jul 2025, 08:36 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player cTPeJI9I0_no_KycTaM_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

3 Jul 2025

  • Accepted Members

    3 Jul 2025, 21:05 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _______kot has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

30 Jun 2025

  • Members Left

    30 Jun 2025, 13:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Lazarux124 left the clan.

26 Jun 2025

  • Accepted Members

    26 Jun 2025, 15:51 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Lazarux124 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

11 Jun 2025

  • Members Left

    11 Jun 2025, 11:55 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Vitaha_Joker left the clan.

10 Jun 2025

  • Accepted Members

    10 Jun 2025, 19:18 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Vitaha_Joker has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

4 Jun 2025

  • Members Left

    4 Jun 2025, 18:46 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Visper007 left the clan.

  • Members Left

    4 Jun 2025, 18:44 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _N1kot1N_ left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    4 Jun 2025, 18:35 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Visper007 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

29 May 2025

  • Members Left

    29 May 2025, 18:03 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _rudaevo1703_ left the clan.

  • Members Left

    29 May 2025, 17:51 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SumrakK_1 left the clan.

26 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    26 May 2025, 17:48 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _N1kot1N_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

  • Accepted Members

    26 May 2025, 15:01 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player _rudaevo1703_ has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

25 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    25 May 2025, 17:58 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Tim0n88 has been accepted to the clan.

24 May 2025

  • Members Left

    24 May 2025, 19:56 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Cymric_Maric left the clan.

22 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    22 May 2025, 10:52 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SumrakK_1 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

19 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    19 May 2025, 20:36 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Cymric_Maric has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

18 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    18 May 2025, 18:36 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Alologist has been accepted to the clan.

  • Members Left

    18 May 2025, 17:21 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Cymric_Maric left the clan.

  • Accepted Members

    18 May 2025, 15:05 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player Cymric_Maric has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

17 May 2025

  • Members Left

    17 May 2025, 14:30 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player moshennick left the clan.

16 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    16 May 2025, 08:43 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player moshennick has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

14 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    14 May 2025, 19:45 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player SKUBIX_26625622 has been accepted to the clan.

11 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    11 May 2025, 10:24 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player sadam12_1404306 has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

6 May 2025

  • Accepted Members

    6 May 2025, 20:32 UTCMilitary Personnel

    Player ChevalierYouth has been accepted to the clan.

    No longer a member.

A join is exact: Wargaming lists it with the roster. A departure or a change of position is noticed when the roster is next refreshed, so it is shown with the window it happened in — this clan has been followed since 14 Oct 2026. Changes of position are known only from when this site began recording them; earlier ones are not shown. Where a player’s own membership history has been fetched, its exact dates are shown instead, including earlier ones.